Welll thanx for da help to be honest im not into race and all dat i want my car to look good and at least something good under the hood, my last car was honda accord lx 4 door, i did some shit in that car, took the two sit back out, i change the cam gear, new clutch, exhaust and some more performance stuff, then what happened is i crash that bitch, so i learned a lesson in that car, i waisted a lot of money too, so right now my new civic is gonna be more toa look and alittle performance..........may i ask how old are some people here.