i know,and thats why i did not say any of the cars were slow,im just bored with the shit talk.i myself give respect when it is giving like he said above,,but just cause someones car is down,does not me they are not respected.Ie THe one,Jr...I give alot of credit to both of them i have seen there cars.and even Jr's Geometro that lil thing moved....just try not talking to people like they suck just cause they like to fix/upgrade there Cars..Plus all the cars say built by jokietuning...why not put up some build threads with pictures i would love to see a Evo motor being built i never have done one b4