well that's a good comparison compared to the motorcycle vs lambo. however, i never said that it couldn't be beaten, i just said that the lambo was anything but "slow". i could show tons of cars beating a lambo all day long, but that does not mean that it is "slow". you are sort of provoking an arguement to a statement that would go something like "the lambo never get's beaten" which i didn't say. all i was saying is that you can't ever call a lambo "slow". you can however do what you are doing and compare it to other cars and call it "slower than _______(insert vehicle)"