haha...agreed on both points. install bay has alot of the same stuff as them for a lot cheaper. and as far as PPI i thought everyone down here loves power acoustic and other junk from people i've talked to. unfortunatly theres a large portion of people it seems that just like the cheapest shit they can get their hands on instead of saving a couple more bucks and get something worth while. I always told people it is what you pay for. theres only a few brands out there that are cheap and good, and in my opinion thats not one of them