you do have a valid point. I've said before i respect those guys to if you dont then you are a fool. you seem to foget the only people that are doubting me are mostly V-8s that keep telling me how they are so bad. i dont care what you bring to the table in the end it is who is the fastest end of story. i dont make excuses find one. i looked at the tim slips granted everyone doesnt have one but from what i can see even on street tires a 13.3 is quicker than 80 % of how many on this site and half the people out there have never gone that fast. they dont sell to many cars that run like that. unfortunatly for me when im on the street there arent tires available to me like the bfg's for rear wheel drive. the powers no good unless its hooking up so i should enjoy my 13 sec car now and when i put slicks on it it will be a 12 sec car but if some asks and im on the street the best time i ran on street tires is 13.3 but will it still be a 12 sec car if it cant perform those numbers on the street. thats why we are in agreement just race and shut up. I have raced every car that i have been given the opportunity and i've lost 3 out of 30 races that is good enough because there is always someone faster. I'm smart enough to know that if people gave you 1/2 the shit I get for having a honda then maybe you would know. and last time i checked the record for a honda ON THE MOTOR (no spray or forced) ran 9.99 thats impresive to me and i respect that. just like i respect the 700+rwhp cars around here. if you guys think im demanding respect you are dead wrong. i thought i had beatn some fast cars in the past but from the talk im hearing i will see mostly 12 sec and faster cars at the track. that is why i want to go. i will race anyone its fun that is why i built the car ask the guy with the tubbed velle i knew he had a 10 sec car and i still ran him. we will see what people have. so leave me alone cant you guys gang up on some other import.