I'm referring to good and bad as compared with other F1 drivers. You can consistently finish in the top 20 in Nascar and call yourself a successful driver, if you're not finishing on the podium in F1, or at least in the top five every now and then you find yourself looking for a job. Juan Pablo wasn't a big deal in F1, he never really did very well, which I think influenced his decision to switch to a sport with more income possibilities. Just my opinion though.