Its all relative. I would say its a little on the loud side but its also a 10 sec. car w/ no cats and turn downs. It sounds different than flowmasters. In terms of actual loudness I think the hookers and 2-cahmbers are close to each other but I think they sound a little different. Im just tired of damn flowmasters. Yes they sound good but everybody has them. Plus I like to be a little stealth and keep my shit somewhat quiet.