Good look, thanks for the input/time. I guess you got a point about the 90 lude, i was also told that possible the 92-95 ex civic may have the gear Im trying to find, Let me ask you this: in reguards to the ecu nulling out the speed deal for vtec, is this just a mater of adding a resistor to the equation, I also was also curious about the rev limit on the p13 for my jdm h22a,I mean ya they have the ebay chip but in all reality this may be achievable handling this in another direction. Do you have any suggestions reguarding that? Thanks