it was funny. i got their number from a distributor. i asked the guy on the phone the cash price for them. he told me the price and i asked was that the i can't pay for it cash price and need to rent to own or the actual price. these were the silver one not the chrome ones i wanted. he told me $195 a rim with out any tires. i hung up since i can get them online for $99 a piece with free shipping.