I realize a second is a world of a difference however I wasn't calling the times comparable I was referring to the cars themselves. The engines. The horsepower. The torque. The weight. The price. A car at that price with those times is impressive for the engine size. Would you rather spend $45 on a 13s car or $30 on a 14s car. I think most of us would agree on the 14s car. You can do alot with 15 grand. And with the turbo coming out in two years it'll smoke the competition.