i'm not "bashing" it per say, cause there's "safe" places to do it, i just don't condone it, even though i'm guilty of it myself, but there's a time and a place for it is all i was trying to get at...

don't go drifting on/off ramps with 100mph entrance speeds, go drive 25+ miles to find some unpopulated country road at 2am (stage 1 / stage 2 here in gainesville, nice spot)... see?

hair metal was the predecessor to modern rock/heavy metal... doesn't mean i love winger, Ratt, whitesnake, Van Hagar, and gonna gobuy thier CDs cause they're the grandaddy of breaking benjamin, pearl jam, pantera etc...