Sony is NOT out of 12 volt in any way. Total, 100% WRONG there. I actually sell their HU's and they aren't bad at all. It's a nice option for someone who doesn't want the same Pioneer that 90% of the cars around here have, but don't want to spend huge money. And they actually have a couple pretty cool little amps too. I dont think i'd mess with their speakers or woofers at this point but the amps and HU's aren't bad small-budget items.