Hmm the one in the picture is an old version, so actually let me rephrase myself - The one in the pic I can't vouch for, i haven't done that version. The newer version (http://clarion.com/us/en/MungoBlobs/...1551-US_11.jpg) is rock solid. I just realized it was the older look - it's perfectly possible the old version was built by a different manufacturer than the new ones are. My bad!