yea exactly what i do i just tune how i would my car lol but still to me and (yes it is a simulator game) but to me its not that accurate for drifting.. i mean the game was created to be as close to real as possible but sometimes it seems like the geometry and physics of the car is not as close to it would be if you where trying to control a drift... you either over steer the piss out of your car or you hold a drive that is not as sideways at it should be... like i can get a pretty damn good angel on forza but no matter what and ive seen it with all the people i know who play the game and then some... when you get past a certin point of angel in your drift you just over steer.. and your honestly not at much of an angel at all... and even if you try to corect it you constantly have to do so to maintain somewhat of a decent angel unless your the type who can deal with getting 1/2 sideways i allways try to do a large enrty soo im sideways before the turn like on cuzuka east when im goign down the stright at the start of the track into that big turn im sideways everytime before i even get to the turn

also i mean realistly i can drift going 30mph... in the game 30mph = 2 mph lol or soo it seems

im sure the next forza if they make one will be sick as hell esp seice forza 2 holds such a good following for drifting im sure they will add a drifting section or just make the physics a tat bit better