Now now corey my statement was lets see how many civics could beat in the best of both worlds curves and staright aways! meaning a car with the abilty to beat me from Brandon to Sarasota with corners and starights. You need handling , braking, and top speed. We did discuss a full interior ,ac , radio etc.. Now there are civics that will smoke me in the qtr but I will beat down in the turns and other I will smoke in the qtr and lose in the turns, depends on thier setup. The bottom line is BOB W. Best Of Both Worlds !!! And there may be some that can do this but I would assume they have some big $$$$$ invested compared to my 15k car with $1280 in mods!