the majority of the evo owners i've seen thus far, should be forced to turn the car keys over to me, its embarrassing, last saturday night i walked up to one and asked the kid if he could tell me what kind of turbo the car came with stock and he looked at me with this confused look like "these things come turbo?". agh, horrible...side note, if its stock, you'd beat it, they run 13.- something stock, but they are getting these things to run 12.1's on stock turbo...