ok hopefully the upload will finish soon... it does sound more like a rattle but ive never really heard rod kock before.. i dont wana flood this thread with my motor haha sorry just figured id ask while im here.. by the way my name is chris nice to meet all of you 4wheeldrift your sean im friends with you on myspace i talked to you last time at desoto haha thanks for your help dude i appricate it !!