Well first off, thank you all for the quick responses...really appreciate that , glad to see that the site actually has people that log on and communicate and help out others. Thanks appreciate that. Also glad to see that Im not the only one with this problem hehehe. And apparently its basically the same thing you guys have mentioned. And when i researched the problem... harmonic balancer also was mentioned. so i think that might solve it. I will take some pictures tomorrow and post em on here. Need-where did ya buy urs and if possible how much ? I bought my tensioner straight from mitsu, a bit expensive( yes oem ) but figured its better in the long run. Again thanks.