Well, then I retract my "bs" part of the comment. Nice runs I guess. If you can't get traction, then it becomes a racers race, and not just a horsepower contest doesn't it? I never get traction from a dig, but I still prefer to do it that way as opposed to a roll. Hell, even at 30 in 2nd, I still get loose. But you have to take a win any way you can now adays, and running from a roll in a car which is (possibly) low on torque, but high on HP, certainly puts it in your favor I guess.