they've been sitting with his damn stack of parts, lol. That's why they might look a little dirty but you can see the threads and if they were used you would see where the mounts would rub on the car during installation of the swap in a car, it gets marked up and scratched on certain spots. I've seen them, they're str8 and as he says, it sucks cause they were expensive as fuck and now he needs to sell, anyways not my sale, lol, g/l bro