well theres a few years on the tl that have defective trannys n those all start slipping at one point or another so the transmission that needs to be put in is a good year and is pretty much guaranteed not to F up. if u read the post and understood what it was then why not just keep it movin if u werent interested? so instead of sittin here posting pointless msgs why dont u go look at one of those other cars n stop wasting my time ?? THANK YOU FOR STOPPING BY ANYWAY!!!!!