seen them 2day when i went and looked at the car he is selling. no dent on them they are mint.apparently he had them on his car and drove it from his house to lht then home again and parked the car,then started parting it out and the car is gone.he said he kept them because they were so new he would lose to much money if he sold them so he kept them for spares.now he is selling his car so he doesnt have a use for them.