BTW The KBB on my car in good condition is $3825. No accidents. And it has never been raced around in. The guy that owned it before me had it completely stock. I got it back in Dec 07. I really need a bigger car or at least one with ac. Mine only works 50% of the time. It's a pain in the ass to be carrying around a 2 yr old when the ac doesn't work. If anyone has any questions let me or civic_ferio99 know.