Originally Posted by
PussixD10
Was it $55/hour effective when Mr. Dono made contact with you and conspicuously shown and/or communicated to him?
So, you're saying that we should just accept the $16,000, and answers to questions asked are privileged and we're not entitled to the information?
If it was "flat rate" why wasn't he furnished a copy of the grand total ahead of time with the exact quote and why do you feel that you need to conceal the actual man hours from us?
If I just called you up on the phone and asked these questions, I know it is none of my business, however you chose to disclose what he owe you, but it makes me go hmmmm when you wouldn't disclose the actual hours.
Please keep in mind that I'm not a stake holder so, I don't stand to merit in any way regardless of which of the below happens:
A.) Joe's mom gets to keep the car
B.) You get to keep the car
C.) Credit Union keeps the car
D.) The three parties end up settling something
Sincerely Yours,
PussixD10
So, Joey already paid ~$1200+$800(in computer) then this community was generous enough to "donate" to a for-profit-entity $3,000 via PayPal(which doesn't mean it isn't a reportable income) which makes the revenue at $4,200 + $800 pending liquidation, making even the claimed amount of $16,000 down to $11,000.
Despite the generosity of this community, Mr. Fiehn is declining to even give us the hours that was actually put into it??
I don't believe I was the first one to ask what the rate was and now Mr. Fiech
Didn't one of the subcontractors said he was defaulted on?
What was the OP doing outsourcing a job he didn't have the money to pay for? Cash flow issues?
As Importguy stated it's not anyone's business. I dont blame him. It's his shop. I dont think he needs to justify himself to you or anyone else except to Jono and the law enforcement that may be involved as well as insurance or any parties that are DIRECTLY involved. If you dont believe he did what he was supposed to or over charged then that is your opinion. If you think that he should have been smarter and not do the job without more money down or a higher deposit fine...he already admitted this. If you look at the job and work that was done to the car, and dont think it was fair then that too is your opinion. Some places charge more...some less. Thats up to them. Right or wrong that is a choice that belongs to Importguy and Joe. Joe seemed to make promisses...why dont we argue that point...Reguardless of what was agreed on on paper, Joe knew it was going to cost more. How much more?! may not be known or maybe it was...thats not the point. He came in several more times with parts and wanted more things done to the car. And them promissed to make payments with his grandfathers money. Now again grant it Importguy should have still demanded more money...and yes he agreed he made this mistake. But Joe knew it was costing more money. When it was time for him to pick up the car....Joe Did not have ANY extra money to pay Except $60.....from his Gfriend....now.....what?
He expected to have all that work done for free? Even if Importguy charged him say.....8000? half of what it cost...did joe have that? what about 4000? what about 2000? what about 500?
What say you about the fairness of that...JOE CAME WITH NO EXTRA MONEY. NOT EXPECTING TO PAY MORE THAN JUST THE FRIGGIN PAINT JOB......(cept his Girlfriend came with $60.)
Is that $60 enough? Also if joe wanted to make payments... That's like Acknowledging and accepting that the job was done...and he knew he had to pay some money for services rendered.
Now discuss that.