a few things.. we spend most of that on servers/bandwidth every year, we have run several charity events and TR/TF donated to the heart association this year significantly. We put on TRack events, BBQ's and like.. after all is said and done TR breaks about even.. in fact banners only appeared on TR when hosting costs and server upgrades were costing us over $10K a year.... but thats got nothing to do with this situation.. i was curious as to what was happening on that end, or whether he was just milking the situation.