Originally Posted by _Charles_

I was on the "throne" (or crapper for some of you...it's where I do my best thinking) thinking about why this thread is different than most...

here's what stands out in my mind...

1. Joe brags about modifications being done, and constantly adds things, knowing that it will cost $$$ to do this. It's not as if he showed up and was plannning on paying $6,000 or $8,000, and got handed a bill for $16,000. He didn't have crap.

2. Joe comes on here, and doesn't actually defend himself. He merely makes threats. He never once stated that he didn't actually authorize the work, only that he didn't sign an estimate. He didn't actually refute the charges, or state they were unreasonable, but instead only talked about getting the car back by Friday. He knows what he was attempting to do.

3. He gave his Balls to the women in his life, and made them do the dirty work.

4. He tried to modify an Automatic base model Celica with a turbo.

5. TR and half of the world are stomping on those balls right now.