If you think truck sales are bad, don't forget the mini vans. I had a guy come in today, 2006 chrysler town and country, 32k miles, bought it new and put $15k down. He financed the other $8k (paid 23k total). We valued it at $5,000. Sucks to hear, but thats just the way the economy is. Although, small 4 cylinder cars are bringing in way over book right now.