Originally Posted by Aoshi

uh, the backseat on the scion is actually damned good for the size. It also reclines. I'm 6'1 and I can sit behind someone and be comfortable.

Anywho, I vote scion, its quite a bit cheaper, loaded (well, what can be considered loaded) is like 19k, for the scion, and about 21k for the corolla. But the scion you can get the spec package w/ manual and its like 16-17k.