whats even funnyer about the not racing thing, is i can rember in 98 or so when no one owned hondas, and my brother had a 95 civic EX with a built turbo gsr maken just over 475 to the wheels. and where talking about when every car out that raced was a V8s, and me and my brother use to go to the old stapels meets and look for people to walk all over.