try 8k and i dont think it is fast like i said in my first post i know how fast it is. i dont want a 600hp 10.5 second car i want 400hp and a fun cat to autocross that i can drive every day and i know it is not a fast autocross car but i just want a fun car. also i dont give a crap how fast your car is it is your car do what you want but probably not you dont take your 18 second honda with a coffee can muffle and bookshelf spoiler on your trunk and rev at a light at me. i ny no means am cocky either i have had a car on every end of the spectrum and when i had my 240 that was slow and has a 5 inch tach on the dash i thought it was fast and in growing up i know now it was anything but it was rice. we went out expecting to see all ends of the spectrum and all we saw really was rice there were probably four respectable cars out there so long story short this is a meet of friends and and not to much more there isnt really a respectable car meet there.