Jordan Y ran 12.1@111 on a 14b,no spray,stock longblock and tranny 1G laser awd.He's a college student who was always broke.Oh s-afc tuned by himself too.I think he was cutting 1.7's on non drag radials street tires.Sorry jap there is no arguement unless its a ziptied 150+ nos shot ls/b16 crx.You should know you had a dsm too.