^ i agree, not tryin to start an argument. also agree that most hondas you see aren't "fast". but the guy i quoted keeps askin for time from mike, when in all actuallity, there arent many dsm's with fast time slips either. not alot of track cars around here. hopefully you understand the point i'm tryin to make, not really about time slips when a majority of the people on here never take their car to the track