sorry im not up on this jap car shit. Im used chevys and muscle cars. trucks that will whoop most of your cars asses stock.. me and my bro built a 10k engine.. id love to see some of you that actually think your car is fast run against it. Fully race built gmc. only one thing left and thats making the tires stick and weve got a solution for that because right now it will make them scream in every gear. Id love to see some of these damn eclipses run this thing. I made it VERY clear when i got my eclipse that I bought it for looks and planned looks before anything however luckily i got a badass car and didnt have to do much to the appearance and really not much on performance. Ive NEVER been impressed by a eclipse or any dsm as far as power and that doesnt mean I like hondas or shit, were just talking about dsms here. I know theres fucking 10sec eclipses, shit isnt there a 6-7sec one i saw a video somewhere. but these cars are gay performance wise. One performance thing to a v8 = like massive amounts of modifications and $$ to achieve basically the same result in a dsm. And ALL this shit is, is bolt on GARBAGE. have you ever had to really do something custom.. I can do bodywork i can weld i can bondo i can shave what you pay to have shaved i shave doors anything. I can do so much more then you take me for and thats because I learn a ton by asking QUESTIONS alot of them and i pick shit up fast. I have been doing this tuner shit for like a month now and already know a ton.. but whatever dude ur right.