no those arent it tho. its ok tho, thanks for the help man, i still wanna go a little lower in the front, like .5 inch lower then what it is now, thats all, and i'll be happy, what can i do? i dont wanna spend alot, and dont wanna replace the back springs to, you know.... PM, we'll close this theard, that way i can just ask you question directly, i realy apper. the help and your time thank you.