i thank you for giving me the heads up and seems like you have alot of experiance just i wont ever give up on my lovely Ls1 and my camaro as it was my first car that i wont part ways just need that daily drive to come by a steel and still be able to have fun with it as its a hobby where the ls1 is a Love of that raw power i have wasted about 6000 to get it where it at and now im gonna take it a step higher but it takes time so this is where dsm and honda come in my picture