I bought these rims used off a member off this board around march. basically 3 tires were shot.. SO, i ordered 3 brand new kumho stx i believe im not sure, 265/35/22 tires... The one tire that i didn't replace has less tread but still a lot , and rides great nothing wrong with any of the tires still a lot of tread... I basically rode these rims 2 and from work , 2 the mall sometimes and a few trips to tampa ( I live around clearwater)... I give the rims a good 8/10, yeah there's some wear on the rims but nothing noticeable unless pointed out.. The rims look great and are still on my car... Like I said I live in Clearwater area, so if you want to take a look at them yourself drop me a pm and we can make an arrangement.. And on another note i'm not sure of the lug pattern all I can say is they went right onto my 99 crown victoria with no problems... Oh, and give me a heads up if you're serious about purchasing them (cash in hand) so i can go up to a tire shop an have my stock tires remounted an balanced and so I can clean the backs of the rims up b4 the sale... thanks , and here's a few pictures of the rims