pretty much testing the waters right now, looking for 250 for the rims without tires. they are 17x9 and 17x8 5 zigen/blackracing pro n1's with a +38 offset all the way around, and a 5x114 lug pattern. they look very very similar to advan rg2's. the rims are in great shape with no curb rash or bends, but they could use a paint job. when i bought them they were sand blasted to bare metal, so i spray painted them silver for the time being just to cover up the metal, they look decent, but i would paint them if i were going to keep them. im looking for 250 obo, but dont low ball me too bad, let me know....