they were all white before......then I planned on doing all of them gunmetal but then I sold my civic and just did not finish but if color is a problem then I can have them done(so long as its not white).......as for the 17 I dont think they will fit if they were on a civic lug pattern and size is not the same 5x114 is what I use now(240sx).....$300 rims and tires