ok if your saying it the driver then tell me this. your saying that you can take a a honda civic si stock. and beat somethin like lets say a mustang cobra with 320hp in the new ones? which would mean that according to you the 160hp 4 banger civic could beat the 320hp power plant v8 riding under the hood. i dont think so!!!!! drivers have a LOT TO DO WITH THE WAY THE RACES ARE DONE but a less powerful car will not beat one that is more powerful i dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!