well since you staed that there is NO advantage to AWD cars and that they get smoked by FWD civics

then there is NO advantage to our cars. These cars are extremely upgradeable and if you find an earlier one you can do extensive things without fear of reducing the motor to kit form. But as with any car they have probs the older ones need drivetrain upgrades to match the motors and other nickel and dime shit but they can be put into the mid 13s for less than a grand. Talk to all of the other dsm gurus they know a helluva alot more than me but i am stilllearning