Yeah, that's one thing that hurt the actual Apexi' N1, was the fact that the pull pipe wasn't stainless steel all the way through. Oh well, there are many other N1 style exhausts out there, that are full stainless, for less than the actual Apexi' version. Call me a ricer, I don't give a shit, but I always loved the canister look on the Tanabe Super Racing Medallion. One of my good friends was running one on his MKIV Supra and that thing was pure sex. Of course, he had the horsepower and torque to back up the look of that nice shiny canister of an exhaust muffler. It had a really nice tone too.