This is true, I don't recall what a Stage 2 w/toys is rated to as far as hp/tq. I do know they have dyno'd around 260ish+ whp and don't recall torque but its higher. Stage 2 doesn't dyno well. Now I'm reading the SRT-4 has Stage 2 plus bolt-ons (bolt-ons unknown). What hp/tq is a stock Evo rated at? Just out of curious...