Originally Posted by Troux

...If you go to Gandy or CCC on Saturday nights, you're part of 'the problem,' and you're asking for trouble.

I honestly don't care what arguments anyone wants to pull up against me, or if anyone thinks I'm being insensitive (in light of recent events), but I see so many threads and news stories about shit that happens there, and it's a haven for hoodlums, brawlers, trouble makers, street racing, and drunk drivers. You're going to find these types almost anywhere you go, but why the hell so many of you (I know there's quite a few attendees on the forums) flock to a weekly clusterfuck of trouble brewing is beyond me.

There's plenty of kids out there that are just going to go there because it's the cool thing to do (defying the law, risking lives, misbehaving, showing off double digit horsepower = cool), and they may or may not learn in a couple years, but there's so many people that go out there, that I honestly expected better from. I've heard countless self-declared 'mature', 'smarter' people joke about going to Gandy or CCC to "laugh at the ricers," or "watch the idiots," etc. I've seen those exact quotes countless times on these boards, as well as many other snide remarks about people driving 20+ miles to pretend they're better than anyone else out there. It's definitive hipocrisy.

If you're heading to one of the weekly culdesacs of crime to watch the drama unfold, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Gawkers, criminals and showoffs only go there because so many other people like yourselves are there. Whether you're watching or participating, you're adding fuel to the fire. That's where everyone goes to race on the streets, and open a 6-pack for a bunch of misguided teenagers. Even the most well-meaning car enthusiast has no place there, as it's certainly not a wholesome place, and even the safest driver could be the next victim of derailed street racing or a DUI partyer.

At least once a month there's mention of mayhem at one of the two ricefests, usually ended with complaints of the cops breaking it up. Truth is, the cops have every right to go there and jail at least 75% of the jackoffs there, and it's about time they do so. If you're complaining about how dumb everyone else there is, try to justify yourself as being any different than another aimless trouble-seeker adding to the mess.



That's about it.

Originally Posted by P057

You obviously didn't read/understand the thread or point Troux was trying to get across...

He's saying that if you stayed away from there in the first place, a lot of the "omg my friend was just killed due to gandy/CCC drifter/racer!" or "cops arrested me for nothing on gandy/CCC!" or "huge wreck on gandy/CCC!" threads won't show up.

You contribute to the problem in the following ways:

• You encourage more of the little ricer kids to keep doing what they're doing (Hey we got a crowd now!)
• By promoting it in the forums with "i was at gandy last night, omgz beer bottles all over the streets!" threads tell the younger members that its ok and fun to head out there
• You contribute to more of the clutter of cars and traffic heading there
• More, but i want to keep this short so you don't lose too much interest too fast.

The problem with that is, these are the results:

• You come to one of these "events" and you get sideswiped by some retard going 120mph
• Your friend gets run over because someone's trying to drift on a straight road.
• You could potentially get pulled over/ticketed/arrested/fined/whatever and you come out with "i hate the po-po" threads
• More traffic = more possibility of someone getting hurt.
• More people start coming out, contributing to the problem

Are there solutions? Of course!

You want to hang out with your other car club buddies or whatever:

MEET SOMEWHERE ELSE. It doesn't even have to be in another county or 15 miles away, go down dale mabry for maybe 5 minutes... It'd help the situation tenfold.
Just make it a few of you guys, make sure that you have no scraggly little kids coming in and ruining your fun by doing burnouts or street racing with themselves.



I'm not going to lie, i've been there maybe twice a long time ago. Its not much better than just hanging with your crew elsewhere.