I'm going to give it a try, I can't recall ever using one before. I wanted the I/C piping as high up as possible to clear traction bars. I'm going to be using T bolt clams and my charge piping wil be bead rolled. If it blows off then I'll just hard pipe the 90.
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Don't bother giving me "rep", I won't return it and I think it is stupid.
Gracie Barra Clearwater
Gyms in Clearwater, St. Pete and Port Richey
pm me if you are interested in trying a free class at any of the gyms.