Rainman voice on...

"Longtubes Ya definately longtubes"

"Ya cats suck, u don't need them ya"

Rainman voice off...

I had an x w/ cats it was ok. Put on a o/r H and felt a big difference. Ofcourse that's probably cause of having no converters. IMO catbacks are good for a paper weight. They don't really add power but really only sound. Just weld in some muffs. Hehe I said "muff" -Mark