Yea I was reading into the chinmotorsport site, it seemed like a good club to learn all the basics with a focus on non-competition track events, just seemed a lil on the expensive side.... by the way, to treekiller, is gainesville setup like a regular autocross (parking lot with cones?), or did you mean that its kinda like a roadcourse, but not as long? But yea, thanks for all the info guys, It'd b nice if TR sponsors a trackevent for these types of tracks..