Donnie you know someone in a stang that ran into that 12 sec neon his name is Jared his dad owns Mustang Motoring...he didnt stand a chance from a roll on US19..the neondidnt downshift and Jared got no traction....the words exchanged were "..I run 13.6s" Jared to my friend Dave inturn he replied "bahhhh". But yeah i rode in the black neon that ran 13.1 he lives up there somewhere in Northeast St Pete...pretty mean lil car considering it only cost him $1400 total car included:o