I am pround to own a Honda Civic. I wasnt talking down on our Civics at all. Im just trying to imagine what the guy in the Mustang was thinking. Reguardless of how many fast cars Weve raced and beat theres still an endless supply of turkeys whove never been beat by a Civic and they dont have a clue what theyre up against at the red light. It seems to me that many V8 owners find it personally insulting to get beat by a Civic. Thats all I was trying to say.