steve u do have a point but their is really no place to do it were everyone else doesnt already know about or gonna be their and be stupid... for one if some people were to find out (RICERS) not just hondas or other cars cuz their are fast ones and clean ass ones but just some people like to act stupid and ruin it for everybody else such as gettin the cops called.. but their is some stops but their far and i mean far from gandy and other spots but if people wanna do some real races we need to find a spot that not many cops are at and get it down.. such as dig races like with DHT spraid on the road and preped but as u all know people will ruin it sooner or later