ever notice how in detail people get when they get called on?? you said" nissan 2.0 beats the pants off common b18" BIG f-in suprise! i agree! now your comparing it to type-r, which is a little closer. read this->: WE ALL GET THAT YOUR MAGIC SR20VE IS BETTER THAN A LS OR GSR! OH BOY. I never would have guessed that! you act like its so amazing, just like a turbo gsr is better than your stock sr20ve. its common sense and you think its out of this world. stock vs stock, hell yes its better, but is it a better motor all around like you claim? mod for mod with the gsr/ls? thats why i said " v6 mustang motor must be better too than cuz stock for stock its got WAAAAAAAAY more hp/tqu!" . give it a rest bro.